V6 II with RF60s...

scovar · July 2016

I have been successfully using the V6 1st Gen with four RF60s for over a year with my Fujifilm X-T1 and now X-Pro2. I just got a V6 II and it won't recognize the flashes, although the V6 1st Gen still does. Please help!

Class A · July 2016

Try updating the firmware of the RF60s.

That should allow them to communicate with the V6II.

margaretclay · July 2016

I have the same problem as scorer. But to update firmware need "compatible USB" cord. Cord did not come with my RF60 speedlites. Please specify what/where to get compatible cord.

raychan · July 2016

You can get the compatible USB cord in our online store. The listing is,

http://store.cactus-image.com/cactus-mini-usb-to-usb-cable-mu-1/

Cheers!

Champion16 · July 2016

When I connect the USB cable to the RF60 to update the firmware, my status still reads, "No device connected". Possible solutions?

Class A · July 2016

Are you using Windows 8 or higher?

If so, you have to follow a certain procedure to install the device drivers.

raychan · August 2016

When I connect the USB cable to the RF60 to update the firmware, my status still reads, "No device connected". Possible solutions?

Please make sure the RF60 is powered off during the firmware update.

In case the RF60 is powered on before connecting the USB cable, the Windows won't be able to detect the connection.

Champion16 · August 2016

I have updated the firmware on my 3 RF60s. When I attempt to use the V6II in HSS mode, the flash will trigger approximately 2 seconds after I hit the shutter button. The V6II says, "TTL systems do not match". Possible solutions?

breylphoto · August 2016

Hi there,

I've been using the older V6 with an RF60 for a few months with my Fuji X-T1. Now I got the V6 Mk.II for HSS.
I've updated both devices to the latest firmware. In regular mode, all is fine. The V6 Mk.II triggers the RF60 as it should. Above 1/180 I get the expected black band in pictures.
Then I followed the procedure to "Learn HSS" on the V6 Mk.ii (on shot at 1/1000). Then I set the V6 Mk.II into Forced HSS =On mode. Now the RF60 isn't triggered at all anymore.
As soon as I set the trigger to Forced HSS = Off, it triggers the RF60 again fine.

I did factory resets on both devices. Re-did the procedures a few times, but no luck. As soon as forced HSS is enabled the RF60 refuses to fire.

Is there any particular setting the RF60 has to be in ?
HSS Sympathy mode yes/no? (is that even possible in remote slave mode?).
Any preference setting that needs to be changed?
Power setting at a certain range?

I'm testing this for two hours now and I'm completely out of ideas.

Cheers,

Robin

breylphoto · August 2016

Never mind - I got it working.
It seems to be an issue with the hotshoe contacts between X-T1 and V6 Mk.II.

What I did notice was that the V6 Mk.II didn't auto detect the camera as a Fuji.
Only when taking the V6 Mk.II on and off a couple of times and pushing and pulling it a bit - and turning it on and off a few times - it finally recognized the camera as Fuji "CAMERA SYSTEM: AUTO (FUJIFILM)".
First it still didn't trigger the RF60. I had to re-learn the Fuji HSS after it auto-detected the camera.
Since then, everything is working fine in HSS mode. Up to 1/4000s no issues whatsoever.

Cheers,

Robin

Champion16 · August 2016

It seems I did all of that and I'm still not getting my RF60s to work properly with the V6II.

Class A · August 2016

@Champion16

Do you still have the delay issue or is it something else that isn't working?

Regarding the delay, make sure that both RF60 and V6II have their "Delay" values set to zero. On the RF60 it is the second menu item and should read "0ms". On the V6II it is also the second menu items under "Functions" and should read "OFF".

If taking care of the delay options does not solve your problem, try to describe what is working (e.g., firing via the V6II test button) and what is not.

Class A · August 2016

@Champion16

The "TTL systems do not match" message is unrelated to the communication between the V6II and the RF60.

The message occurs when you are trying to use TTL pass-through and your flash system does not match the camera system.

If you want to get the RF60 working off-camera, I'd try not to use an additional flash on the V6II first.

Champion16 · August 2016

I also have an original V6; which works fine. The V6II works fine until I try to use it in HSS. TTL Pass Through is OFF, the Delay value on the RF60 is set to 0 and the Delay on the V6II is set to OFF. Still, I am having problems!

raychan · August 2016

I also have an original V6; which works fine. The V6II works fine until I try to use it in HSS. TTL Pass Through is OFF, the Delay value on the RF60 is set to 0 and the Delay on the V6II is set to OFF. Still, I am having problems!

Can you check whether the camera system is selected correctly in the V6 II? To check the status on the V6 II status screen, press the MENU button and then scroll the rotatory dial. You will see a camera icon with a letter inside when the camera system is selected.

There are two ways to select camera system.

1. Auto detect: turn off the V6 II , then turn on the camera, half-press the camera shutter while switching on the V6 II into TX mode. This sequence is matter.

2. Manual select: turn on the V6 II , go to MENU > CAMERA & FLASH SETUP > CAMERA SYSTEM > Select the specific camera system. The setting will be saved even after a power cycle.

After the setup, the camera with V6 II will be able to shoot in HSS for RF60.

All the best,

kipshaw · August 2016

I'm still having the same problem that breylphoto described. I've updated the firmware on both my RF60s and the v6 II, manually selected the camera type as Fujifilm (I'm using it with an x-t1), trained the v6 II successfully with the 1000th speed shutter image.

With Forced HSS OFF, the RF60s fire, but with Forced HSS ON, they don't fire.

breylphoto said he got it to work by jiggering with the hot shoe contact, but that doesn't work for me.

Any and all help greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Kip Shaw

Antonio · August 2016

Hello @kipshaw

Don't manually select the Fujifilm in the Camera System, because this way it's hard to determine whether the V6 II is actually communicating with the camera on all the hot shoe contact pins.

First, switch on the V6 II, press MENU button, scroll to Camera and Flash System, select AUTO for camera system. Then switch off the V6 II.

Now mount the V6 II on your X-T1
Switch on the camera
Switch on the V6 II to TX mode + half-press camera shutter button a couple times to keep it active (from sleeping)
Then look at V6 II's LCD and see if there's a F inside the camera icon.

If you see an F, then proceed below:

Press MENU button
Scroll to Camera & Flash Setup
Scroll to Learn HSS
Press OK to Start the learning process (remote flash is irrelevant for this learning, it's only between the camera and the V6 II TX)
Set shutter speed to above x-sync, e.g. 1/1000s
V6 II will learn the hss timing information then jump back to main screen
Push-in the Rotary Dial to turn ON Forced HSS

Take a shot at above x-sync (1/180s for your X-T1) and the flash should sync.

Hope this helps!

dave_hill · August 2016

Hi the V6 ii recognised the camera but the flash would not fire either mounted on the V6 or remotely when i pressed the shutter on the camera. the flash would fire when pressing the test button on the v6 but only when mounted on the camera. I still cannot control the flash from the V6ii

Dave

Antonio · August 2016

Hi again Dave,

As mentioned in the other thread, install the firmware again on the RF60 (should be 202 now?) and try again.

And remember to set Camera to AUTO, so you can be sure all the hot shoe pins are properly aligned.

Thank you!

Geordieboy77 · September 2016

Hi Antonio, I`m also having exactly the same issues previously described, works fine without HSS off but when forced it doesnt fire. I`ve tried all the suggestions about getting the V6 mkii to "learn" the camera, However even after resetting to default and going through the process the flash will only fire on the XT-1 when HSS forced is OFF. When its forced "ON" it will not fire at all. XT-1 did fire when "learing" to capture the HSS facility but it will just not fire

Regards

Craig

Geordieboy77 · September 2016

Ok so an update, I tried the V6 mkii on my xpro 2 and it picked up my xpro 2 as the camera, I "learned" HSS @ 1000/s and guess what? It still wont fire with HSS "forced" it fires fine with HSS OFF so I dont think its an issue with either XT-1 or XPRO 2.

I have both RF60 & v6 mkii with the latest firmware updates. Kind of frustrated with this now, not to mention how difficult it was to do the firmware updates on the RF60!

Geordieboy77 · September 2016

Hi the V6 ii recognised the camera but the flash would not fire either mounted on the V6 or remotely when i pressed the shutter on the camera. the flash would fire when pressing the test button on the v6 but only when mounted on the camera. I still cannot control the flash from the V6ii

Dave

I`ve also found this which I found extremely strange that the test button on the transmitter only works when it is mounted on the hot shoe of the camera! When you take it off the hot shoe it refuses to "test" from the transmitter. I think Cactus need to look into these issues as I now have an expensive transmitter that is no better than the V6 MK1

Class A · September 2016

I found extremely strange that the test button on the transmitter only works when it is mounted on the hot shoe of the camera!

That's strange. My V6II is on V1.1.003 and my RF60 is on V2.02. If I press the test button on the V6II, the RF60 fires even though the V6II is not mounted to a camera.

Perhaps you need to perform a factory reset on both V6II and RF60?

Are you using the gear very close to each other?

I have my V6II set to the "SHORT" option of the "WORK RANGE" option in the radio setup. This allows me to use very close distances between V6II and RF60 without losing radio communication. The maximum range with "SHORT" engaged is still 30m, or so, which is more than enough for what I'm typically doing.

Geordieboy77 · September 2016

I found extremely strange that the test button on the transmitter only works when it is mounted on the hot shoe of the camera!

That's strange. My V6II is on V1.1.003 and my RF60 is on V2.02. If I press the test button on the V6II, the RF60 fires even though the V6II is not mounted to a camera.

Perhaps you need to perform a factory reset on both V6II and RF60?

Are you using the gear very close to each other?

I have my V6II set to the "SHORT" option of the "WORK RANGE" option in the radio setup. This allows me to use very close distances between V6II and RF60 without losing radio communication. The maximum range with "SHORT" engaged is still 30m, or so, which is more than enough for what I'm typically doing.

Done all of what you have suggested, firmware is exactly as you have stated. The whole tranmitter of camera test is a niggle, its the HSS issue which is really annoying because effectively I have a MKII in a MKI guise

Class A · September 2016

If you are fully depressing the test button on the V6II transmitter off-camera and the RF60 does not fire (although it is in an active group) directly after a factory reset of both devices, making sure there is about 50cm distance between V6II and RF60, then I am at a loss what could be wrong.

The fact that this does not work for you with the latest firmware versions installed suggests that there is a hardware issue with your units. I know that you are not after the test button working as it should but if a basic test like that does not succeed then I would not necessarily expect more complex things to work.

Hopefully, Antonio or someone else from Cactus can chime in again to help you with your issue. Perhaps contact them via email as well?

Antonio · September 2016

If you are fully depressing the test button on the V6II transmitter off-camera and the RF60 does not fire (although it is in an active group) directly after a factory reset of both devices, making sure there is about 50cm distance between V6II and RF60, then I am at a loss what could be wrong.

I actually experienced that once when I ran a demo at a store here in Hong Kong. After I restarted both the V6 II and RF60 and re-Learn HSS the problem was fixed.

Maybe you could try that, @Geordieboy77 and let us know if it worked for you too.

Thanks!

Geordieboy77 · September 2016

If you are fully depressing the test button on the V6II transmitter off-camera and the RF60 does not fire (although it is in an active group) directly after a factory reset of both devices, making sure there is about 50cm distance between V6II and RF60, then I am at a loss what could be wrong.

I actually experienced that once when I ran a demo at a store here in Hong Kong. After I restarted both the V6 II and RF60 and re-Learn HSS the problem was fixed.

Maybe you could try that, @Geordieboy77 and let us know if it worked for you too.

Thanks!

If you are fully depressing the test button on the V6II transmitter off-camera and the RF60 does not fire (although it is in an active group) directly after a factory reset of both devices, making sure there is about 50cm distance between V6II and RF60, then I am at a loss what could be wrong.

The fact that this does not work for you with the latest firmware versions installed suggests that there is a hardware issue with your units. I know that you are not after the test button working as it should but if a basic test like that does not succeed then I would not necessarily expect more complex things to work.

Hopefully, Antonio or someone else from Cactus can chime in again to help you with your issue. Perhaps contact them via email as well?

Gents,

I will try this when I get home after work today and update you all accordingly, I will even reinstall the firmware to ensure the updates were successful (even though they were in the first instance) I did ensure that the transmitter and RF60 were a suitable distance apart ie. 1 meter but this did not resolve the HSS issue and still remains the same that it wont fire in forced mode at all on both XT1 and XPRO2.

lee · September 2016

this may be stating the obvious, apologies if so. if using the rf60 off camera…

slave mode

both rf60 and v6ii are on same channel and group, group button also lit up on v6ii?

Geordieboy77 · September 2016

If you are fully depressing the test button on the V6II transmitter off-camera and the RF60 does not fire (although it is in an active group) directly after a factory reset of both devices, making sure there is about 50cm distance between V6II and RF60, then I am at a loss what could be wrong.

I actually experienced that once when I ran a demo at a store here in Hong Kong. After I restarted both the V6 II and RF60 and re-Learn HSS the problem was fixed.

Maybe you could try that, @Geordieboy77 and let us know if it worked for you too.

Thanks!

If you are fully depressing the test button on the V6II transmitter off-camera and the RF60 does not fire (although it is in an active group) directly after a factory reset of both devices, making sure there is about 50cm distance between V6II and RF60, then I am at a loss what could be wrong.

I actually experienced that once when I ran a demo at a store here in Hong Kong. After I restarted both the V6 II and RF60 and re-Learn HSS the problem was fixed.

Maybe you could try that, @Geordieboy77 and let us know if it worked for you too.

Thanks!

If you are fully depressing the test button on the V6II transmitter off-camera and the RF60 does not fire (although it is in an active group) directly after a factory reset of both devices, making sure there is about 50cm distance between V6II and RF60, then I am at a loss what could be wrong.

The fact that this does not work for you with the latest firmware versions installed suggests that there is a hardware issue with your units. I know that you are not after the test button working as it should but if a basic test like that does not succeed then I would not necessarily expect more complex things to work.

Hopefully, Antonio or someone else from Cactus can chime in again to help you with your issue. Perhaps contact them via email as well?
Gents,

I will try this when I get home after work today and update you all accordingly, I will even reinstall the firmware to ensure the updates were successful (even though they were in the first instance) I did ensure that the transmitter and RF60 were a suitable distance apart ie. 1 meter but this did not resolve the HSS issue and still remains the same that it wont fire in forced mode at all on both XT1 and XPRO2.

******UPDATE********, so firmware reapplied and uploaded successfully to v6 mkii, spring clip removed from XT1 V6 mkii still doesn't recognise the camera. XPRO2 transmitter finds XPRO2 re-learned 1/1000s shutter speed, test button on transmitter works. Flash fires but NOT in HSS mode. Forced HSS does not work, no further forward in having the transmitter fire RF60 on HSS. I now dont know what to do now other than send the unit back and ask for refund which really is a shame because I really wanted the transmitter for HSS sync on the Fuji.

Geordieboy77 · September 2016

this may be stating the obvious, apologies if so. if using the rf60 off camera…

slave mode
both rf60 and v6ii are on same channel and group, group button also lit up on v6ii?

Yes otherwise it would not fire as normal

Ken · September 2016

I have the same problem as scorer. But to update firmware need "compatible USB" cord. Cord did not come with my RF60 speedlites. Please specify what/where to get compatible cord.

The USB cable that comes with a GoPro is compatible.

V6 II with RF60s...

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